And it wasn't even for the right trophy. Bloodsport Oral History Synopsis: U.S. Army Captain Frank Dux ( Jean-Claude Van Damme ), who had been trained as a boy by the legendary Ninjutsu master Senzo Tanaka, decides to honor his mentor. She said, "Wait a minute, I'll be right back" and then comes in with the same magazine. Do you still believe I that?" You're craaaaaaazy." You had mentioned that you and Sheldon reshaped that original script. Like with Legionnaire. He's a real talent when it comes to that. In this declaration, Commander Martin attests to the following: Frank Dux: As far as my military service goes, I should also mention that I'm named as a source contributor in the US Navy SEAL SPECWAR manual. We were calling it "Delayed Stress." Can you tell me about writing Enter The Ninja? After directing Jean-Claude in Double Impact [1991] and Lionheart [1990] before that, was there any reason you didn't want to be involved with writing or directing?Sheldon Lettich: That was right after another movie I did called Only the Strong [1993] and I seemed to have a lot of other things going on. "Bloodsport" follows Frank Dux, an American martial artist serving in the military, who decides to leave the army to compete in a martial arts tournament in Hong Kong where fights to the death can occur. But he had a great imagination, he had good ideas and he knew the martial arts world pretty well. But it was interesting because he's fighting Mike Stone and Mike Stone had reportedly 91 wins. Millions of Americans were first introduced to Tiger Tanaka in the Ian Fleming novel. Because he's riding on the coattails of Jean-Claude. Well, Menahem just happened to be searching for an actor to play the lead in Bloodsport so he told Jean-Claude to come by his office the following morning and gave him a copy of the script.Blake Harris: Right, right.Sheldon Lettich: But the point we're getting towards is my first meeting with Jean-Claude. KUMITE! And I was right: He came with [Bloodsport actor] Michel Qissi and two other guys. Both of them wanted to be the cop.Blake Harris: That's so funny (though it makes sense).Sheldon Lettich: It just couldn't be worked out so the project fell by the wayside until they got Stallone and Wesley Snipes to be in it. Please note as always our subject'sopinions, recollections and claims are his own, and do not reflect the views of the author or this publication. And then Moore took me and Grant and started showing us some stuff. "Blake Harris: Can I guess that the novel was The Last Rainbow [by Frank Dux]?Sheldon Lettich: Yup. Because for years he would turn down roles if his character had to be defeated at the end. But Mark had permission to use his name and to basically say that this was a real story. Surprised? I think it was Jean-Claude finally convinced them to allow him to do it. It's a way for me to just flow. And there'd be a bunch of people there with phones to record it, so we don't want this to happen.Blake Harris: Speaking of that screening, Frank had mentioned that you were crushed. He had an answering machine at the time that had a limit of, like, 50 messages. And I could see he was really contemplating it. He was good at boxing. So to compensate, they put me in these metal boots. Very well known. And everybody had their picture taken with me, and I don't recall anyone having their picture taken with Sheldon, outside of his friends. In 1987's Superman #4, by John Byrne and Karl Kesel, Superman tried to stop Bloodsport's rampage through Metropolis. The Robert DuBois version of Bloodsport made his live-action debut in the television series Supergirl, played by David St. Louis. And they wouldn't show it to me. Then we needed someone different to play the Chuck Norris role. We just became friends almost immediately. And I said, "Okay, Sheldon, you get the credits, and then when you get up to the next level, you just bring me up." I still had not yet met Jean-Claude at this time. Though defeated, this wasn't the last the heroes of the DC Universe saw of Bloodsport. But if we can cut it down, I think we can sell this novel. How much of the story really happened? You see my point? Blake Harris: The Black Belt article got a lot of attention and certainly must have piqued the interest of some folks in Hollywood. One of these covert operatives was one Frank Dux. Pushed too farand generally all three words would appear on screenthat was big in the 80s. We have a treatment and we started writing the script. The 20 episodes of How Did This Get Made listed below offer a taste of the world that the hosts have built. These guys, after brutally going at each other, now they were just laughing it off. Fun bit of trivia: Bloodsport is essentially a hoax perpetrated by Frank Dux, who made outrageous claims about this Kumite tournament that were never substantiated and are physically impossible. I'm not gonna stoop to his level. Well I did, and I landed one right on his nose.Blake Harris: Really?Frank Dux: Yeah, and he was not happy about that. It's incredible." It took me years to understand the producer's point, but I do now. Viking Samurai 104K subscribers Subscribe 546 16K views 1 year ago How did the Bloodsport Redux trailer go viral and Why this movie needs to get made! I had my then-fianc back in the United States get all the uniforms for them. He basically makes up these stories, casts himself as the leading character and somehow convinces himself that he really did this stuff. So when I finally connected with Lettich, I worried that there might be some not-so-flattering words headed my way. I didn't understand. He threw a ridge-hand strike and he swept him at the same time. And I walked out on the ledge and I was waiting for him because I knew he wasn't going to come alone. But there was a Writer's Guild arbitration and the Writer's Guild ended up giving him a co-story credit.Blake Harris: Tell me a little bit about Legionnaire. We even made a movie together, my 16mm short Firefight, which I gave him a major role in. And when I told about him the purpose of this How Did This Get Made seriesto investigate how movies got made, and the careers of those involvedhe was happy to clear up any misconceptions and provide additional insights into the making of Bloodsport, his two decades of collaboration with Jean-Claude Van Damme and what it takes to write a badass, blow-em-up action film. We did not use CGI, that was only just starting to become popular, so we had to do everything optically. And Stallone felt the same way. Dux believes this article was part of a smear campaign orchestrated by business competitors. What is he, a walking dictionary of a secret society? The piece, entitled "Kumite: A Learning Experience," was written by editor John Stewart and begins with the following note: From time to time, Black Belt learns of unusual events or occurrences in the martial arts; events thateither because of their nature or because they occurred in the distant pastcannot be easily verified. So you know what that means. One contribution I made to that script though was suggesting to Jean-Claude that he set the story in the past. I wasn't an actor, but I was a writer, so I got in touch with John and we hit it off. It was a moment where you have to sit back and realize that sometimes when you think something's wrong, everything is going right. Sadly not at all. That it would be helpful and therapeutic.Blake Harris: And was it? I said, "Real Kumite fighters, we fight here. During that time, he's never felt like he had a platform to defuse those lies and tell his side of the storyuntil now. I don't really want to give this guy a platform for more publicity because that's what he's always looking for.". Even though we thought the movie was better, Menahem didn't. Go to https://NordVPN.com/variant to get a 2-year plan at a huge discount plus 4 months free. I had them cut down so it would fit him because I'm a bigger guy. That is not to say that the Tanaka name has no meaning. I wrote the script, got paid a small fee and I can't remember how much time passedprobably less than a yearand via another guy named Lou Horwitza financer who, I believe, did gap-financing at the timeLou took it to Cannon. Menahem started to realize what he had with Jean-Claudeand remember, he had two more movies with himso he called us into his office and said, "We need to find our next movie for Jean-Claude." And we were dogs being pitted against each other. What was he like?Frank Dux: He was wonderful. And Menahem was dead set against it.Blake Harris: Why?Sheldon Lettich: [Laughing at the memory] His word for Jean-Claude was "poison." I wasn't there. The film is partly based on unverified claims made by martial artist Frank Dux. While trying to gain access into. It was very time-consuming and it was not easy to match things up with the optical printer, but I thought we did a pretty good job of that. They always gave me one camera to kind of use and shoot it the way I'd like to see shot. I actually got to take my mother for the first time to see the film. During the tournament, Dux battles an array of international fighters from various schools of martial arts. He was a little too old at the time. That's kind of how it appealed to me. I mean, the guy announced his malice. Also, Idris Elba's voice is just something else. My body's fully developed, I jumped up like a bean sprout, and now I was eyeball to eyeball with Moore, who this time fought the Unstoppable Mike Stone at Long Beach. Wow.Frank Dux: And he knocked Chuck Norris to the ground several times. That's not even my name. Following his appearances in the two preceding sequels, Daniel Bernhardt returns in the new role of Agent John Keller, who goes into prison . Tiger Tanaka, right? He didn't like it. And we made money on that film. More Like This Unspooled with Paul Scheer & Amy Nicholson Listen up, film fans! So he still didn't' have a lot of faith in Jean-Claude's acting abilities and decided not to make it. with Andy Griffith, where Barney Fife was getting picked on and so he goes to learn judo. That kind of caught my fancy. It was also seen by Viacom. So we changed the title to Stryker's Force and we gave the character's different names. But then Ed Pressman, who had done Street Fighter, he wanted to do another movie with Jean-Claude. So I ended up writing that script for him. Look, Stallone was the biggest star in the world at the time and to even have a meeting with him was, to me, a huge honor. He liked the authenticity in it and he'd heard about Tracers also. I was just at his house for New Year's Eve. I saw Sheldon as my friend, and I was trying to help him. And he was an idol of Jean-Claude's too.Blake Harris: Yeah? Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1994 science fiction comedy Tammy and the T-Rex. That this guy looks just like me and we should suggest it to Mark DiSalle. I told Menahem that the new cut of Bloodsport was great and I thought it was going to do really well. It was a no-budget. Jean-Claude Van Damme." And then they had me give up my net points on the film.Blake Harris: Really?Frank Dux: Yeah, for Jean-Claude to have his career, I gave up my net points. But the only guy in the world who could kill Jean-Claude with his permission is Sylvester Stallone. I'm not kidding you. Those were my uniforms. On this episode of Matinee Monday, Paul Scheer looks back at the "How Did This Get Made?" episode with Nicole Byer on the 1988 cult f. So these kids kind of grew up together. Live from Largo in L.A. they get into Samuel L. Jackson's infamous death scene, LL Cool J's relationship with his bird, Stellan Skarsgrd's new name, and how Saffron Burrows is the film's true villain. I was not an actor, so it was decided that I would be the writer member of this group. But he was telling me about this tournament that he participated in where all the best fighters in the world showed up. This was all very, very low budget. It developed a strong cult following, and has been cited as an influence on the development of mixed martial arts. He remembered that there were different shots. He would punch the bricks, breaking them apart. And it's interesting because they hide that, you know? And a lot of pain, I guess, made me fight. So there would be one shot where you would see both brothers in the same shot, kind of talking to one another and then all the other shots were either close-ups or over-the-shoulders done with a double. He couldn't say anything. And I actually helped John do the casting. Back then, things were so different. Two, actually. And what really grabbed Sheldon's attention was the fights.Blake Harris: So what happened with the script? Because Jean-Claude uses people and chews them up as quick as he can. So Leon and I go and pitch this to Menahem. Bloodsport hospitalizing Superman was lifted directly from his first comic book appearance. Shortly after running our last piece, How Did This Get Made: A Conversation with Frank Dux, the Real-Life Inspiration for Bloodsport, I was put in touch with Sheldon Lettich. Or any agent's records? I met Gladys, the woman of my dreams, I had a baby, and I'm miserable. Then all of the sudden I got hit in the face with a Black Dragon shirt, and that's how I became the youngest Black Dragon in the history of the Black Dragons.Blake Harris: That's unbelievable. Jean-Claude saw Menahem on the street, did a U-Turn and said, "Hey Menahem, remember me? I gotta tell you: Seeing it years later, I didn't realize how good it was. And I think it's because he felt very insecure. We encountered a few phonies, but eventually we put together a core group. I thought that was real interesting.Blake Harris: I imagine that at 11 years old that was a pretty inspiring experience.Frank Dux: Yeah and then three years later, I saw him again. This is the kind of bond we had. AVianes. Ed Boon and John Tobias, the creators of legendary video game Mortal Kombat, were inspired in part by Bloodsport. We thought he was f***ing great. She loved it. This regular featureis written byBlake J. Harris, who you might know as the writer ofthe bookConsole Wars, soon to be a motion pictureproduced bySeth RogenandEvan Goldberg. U.S. soldier Frank Dux (Jean-Claude Van Damme) has come to Hong Kong to be accepted into the Kumite, a highly secret and extremely violent martial-arts competition. And at the Invitationals, there's Bruce Lee. But they called me from Hong KongFrank and Jean-Claudelamenting the fact that "Mark DiSalle was messing up the script." Like Bloodsport is one of his best movies ever but it still resulted in a great episode. But the fights in the story were all real. People would just assume that this is how it worked on those other two movies.Blake Harris: That makes sense.Sheldon Lettich: So I actually suggested to Jean-Claude that he use Frank Dux to write the script. Bloodsport is a 1988 American martial arts film directed by Newt Arnold, and starring Jean-Claude Van Damme, Donald Gibb, Leah Ayres, and Bolo Yeung. I thought it was Pasadena, but everyone's told me it was Long Beach. Uh, no. I thought: Oh shit, I'm going to get my ass handed to me. So we had no budget on that movie and we did a great job. I wasn't going through anything like that myself, but it's therapeutic if you're able to recreate something that was an important part of your life and find a way to transmit it to other people. And then Hollywood got to him and he started showing signs of manic depression, you know?Blake Harris: In what way?Frank Dux: I'll never forget. That movie's terrible; I'm putting it straight to video. So any time you want to know who an agent is you can just go down there and file a request? And was that something that you and Jean-Claude consciously tried to deliver (or to avoid)?Sheldon Lettich: We tried to do something atypical with Lionheart. Bloodsport 4: The Dark Kumite. Jean-Claude's character comes to the US to help out his brother, not with anything like revenge or violence on his mind. I don't think Stallone has ever been given his due by movie critics. 2. level 1. Because believe it or not, Robert DuBois truly was the man known for shooting the Man of Steel with a bullet in DC canon. Back when I first started working with Stallone, my agent had told me to bring an idea to pitch him for a script. And just a few more questions. An animatronic dinosaur with a teen's brain, dinosaur charades, a weird striptease for a brain in a bowl, and much more. What I had done was I had the fight, like in Bloodsport, but there was one little caveat difference: In between doing these fights, he was also doing stuff to help people on the street. He was totally against any kind of steroids. We're 60 stories in the air, I'm not kidding you. And that was the difference. Sheldon Lettich: In Menahem's defense, I saw the first cutwe all the saw first cutand it was really bad. Synopsis:U.S. Army Captain Frank Dux (Jean-Claude Van Damme), who had been trained as a boy by the legendary Ninjutsu master Senzo Tanaka, decides to honor his mentor by taking the place of Tanaka's dead son in an illegal, no-holds-barred martial arts tournament called the "Kumite. Well, about the only thing they showed was a trophy receipt.Blake Harris: Which they claimed was evidence that the trophy you won was "at least partially made in the San Fernando Valley? Jean-Claude was doing movies for Columbia and they wanted him to bring them some ideas for movies and we brought that idea to them. We pitched it to them and they were kind of interested, but at the end of the day they decided not to do it. They could shut me out from sequel rights. In Enter the Ninja, I didn't use my real name. They each got three chances to punch (and block) one another. Unlike so many of the testosterone-fueled films of the '80s, Bloodsport holds the rare distinction of being based on a true story. It was called Firebase and was basically Zulu in Vietnam; about a small disparate group forced together on a Firebase that gets attacked by an overwhelming number of North Vietnamese. Frank lost that case. The truth. I was at this taping and I even got to ask a question, so this is probably my favorite episode by default. Discovered by Player FM and our community copyright is owned by the publisher, not Player FM, and audio is streamed directly from their servers. How else could you get a hold of this? Not looking to find myself embroiled in the middle of a he-said, she-said war of words, I happily agreed to this request. Do you recognize the guy all the way on the right? I'm not talking our toes are over the edge. You try to get him to do a judo throw and he couldn't throw anybody. And as soon as he was back in LA, he gave me a call and came over to my apartment in Park La Brea. And I said, "If you're gonna go, just don't pull me with you." So cool, in fact, that now we have a professional basketball team called The Raptors and no one raised an eyebrow about why a team from Tornoto, Canada would be named that. Actually, I should back up. And he did the helicopter kick in No Retreat, No Surrender and I was well known for my flying kicks and finishing guys off with my spinning flying kicks. I imagine that would be hard for you to prove, no?Frank Dux: Well, that part about me saying that the military ordered my record sabotaged? How conscious were youand I don't mean with that movie, but in generalabout that kind of formula. Oh man, he f***ing hated that movie. I never accused the military of doing it. Hit the Subscribe button to track updates in Player FM, or paste the feed URL into other podcast apps. I thought Bloodsport was going to ruin my career when it was first cut and put together. This regular featureis written byBlake J. Harris, who you might know as the writer ofthe bookConsole Wars, soon to be a motion pictureproduced bySeth RogenandEvan Goldberg. And we ran around like kids, just like kids, and he was showing me this beautiful art deco penthouse apartment in downtown L.A.Blake Harris: That's a great image. Is that what you're telling me?Blake Harris: Right, that's why I thought it would difficult to prove (or disprove).Frank Dux: Yeah, but I'll tell you what. (w/ Nicole Byer) 4/7/2023 More HDTGM all-star Nicole Byer (Grand Crew, Nailed It!) But I learned to conquer it, okay? With Jean-Claude Van Damme, Donald Gibb, Leah Ayres, Norman Burton. Jeez. It's hard to call the young Van Damme's performance "good" in any traditional sense of the word, but . Bloodsport Coming Soon to Fortnite - YouTube 0:00 / 1:00 Bloodsport Coming Soon to Fortnite Fortnite 11.5M subscribers 1.6M views 1 year ago #Bloodsport #Fortnite #FortniteBloodsport. You know what I mean? I was afraid to taste it, because I'm allergic to shellfish. And I said, "Hey, asshole, I'm right over here." It was going to be a surprise appearance. And I'd imitate him.Blake Harris: Do you remember how old you were around this time?Frank Dux: I was 11 years old. California, Oregon and Washington. Nobody clapped or wanted to have their picture taken with you. You wanted to help him be successful. And I totally separated it. It would have been an expensive movie. And it became real clear and finallyI said show me the proof that I represented myself as a war hero, as a Medal of Honor hero? 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