Tisdel has disputed claims that after the truth was revealed to her, they continued a romantic relationship, but instead she told Brandon that they could still be friends. Brandon : I hate your life, too. My impression was that this was about a girl posing as a boy as an experiment..! LANA by LANA, released 20 March 2020 1. Brandon : Lana, you are one cranky girl. The last time Lana Tisdels name came up in the press was the year 2000, when she settled a lawsuit with movie distributor Searchlight Pictures for an undisclosed sum. and its from within the power structure (ie: the 2 boys in Arkansas murdered then put on the train tracks. Tisdel has made it clear that her relationship with Brandon Teena was brief and did not include sex; only lasting about two months from their first meeting until the murder. Required fields are marked *. Sorry if this seems pedantic, but care over words is important on a matter such as this, which is both controversial (biology v social construct / sex v gender) and generates much nonsense. This overrides punitive consideration. IN MY HOME TOWN! Her story outraged . Another example of Aphrodite Jones changing facts is as follows: Lisa Lambert throws a birthday party for Teena. Sounds a lot like premeditated to me. Teena was a victim of appalling men. Try hard as you might, you will not find any other photo of Teena touching a male. You cant take it away from her. Im going to practice social distancing because it seems that you might have an infected heart. Are they? Unlike you I know all of the details of how she was beaten, and I know what it signifies. Lana, who in her youth resembled actress Jodie Foster, still has long beautiful strawberry blond hair. And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. An Update on John Lotter and Thomas Nissen. Decide for yourselves. Can I tie her up and keep her in my bedroom (until the Court opens after Christmas holidays, so that she can be surrendered there and bail be revoked)? He asked. Teena blew him off. Nebraska isnt one of the six states that allow conjugal visits.. 2- How many Transmen joined straight male criminal organizations or associated with heterosexuals? Tisdel was shocked, said her mother. What I would object to, per the above observation, is demand/enforcement/coercion of something that I should be free to offer as a kindness because it is, in fact, counter-factual for the reason you state. DIFFERENT TIMES, & THE ATTACKS KEEP COMMING! OTHER THAN PRAYER,ARE However, their two-month relationship is described as very intense. You people love to ignore using his correct prounons like one way to respect him is use HE AND HIM. Im pro trans-rights. LOT OF ENEMIES FOR ME! Unfortunately Teena Brandon was the indigent patient under state care, and all they did, was giver her a handout about trans people. If you really want to honor someone, you should use their correct name. There was a homosexuality scale of between 1 and 6, and the person at 6 only spent time and socialized with people of their own biological sex. BB: Im sure youre right. To say anything untoward about him will ruin friendships that took many years to develop. It seems that both, Tom Nissen and Teena Brandon were outsiders to the Falls City scene and that Teena may have known Nissen from someplace else, since they both appeared at the Oasis together, when Lana saw them for the first time. You can watch the interviews with Lana Tisdel and Linda Gutierres in the documentary on YouTube. CITIZENS! This is important because Tom Nissen is a repeat rapist. 10 years ago, in Ca, it cost c $4.2 m each to exhaust appeals of DP offenders, over an average 20 years as appeals are multi-layered for capital offenders but less so for lifers. During a Christmas Eve party, Lotter and Nissen forced Teena to take off his clothes in order to show everyone, including Lana, his genitals. Teena Brandon and Nissen drove to Lincoln, NE together on more than one occasion, once for Teenas Court appearance, and another time to see Teenas sister to get some money. Based on conversations Teena had with people after the rape, in the car on the way from the hospital and with her sister, emotionally, Teena Brandon was a girl, as opposed to bring a mature woman. They did it for their own benefit. How sad that there are so many shallow minded people. Nissen I believe had two sexual raps but not rape. Im happy to refer to people as they wish so long as Im not asked to deny biological sex. One correction: Dominick Dunne is Joan Didians brother-in-law, not husband. I know Teena better than you do. Neither of the men had been convicted of rape before. At some point, Teena also introduced Tom Nissen to her sister. Your email address will not be published. Peirce met with Lana Tisdel, the woman Brandon Teena fell for, and eventually secured her life rights. So, much so, that the critics were accusing Jimenez of Truthism and called to have the author stripped of the award that he received for it. Teena Brandons psychological symptoms were the result of early childhood exposure to criminality, domestic violence against her mom and her sister, and alcohol abuse first. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? In the context of the above does it make sense that Teena starts showering seven times a day with a complete change of clothing? No: biological female = female. Name switch. I dont consider it possible to change sex, and those who do must acknowledge that the matter is at least controversial. Both Lana Tisdel and Ton Nissen knew Teenas biological gender, because Teena told them. John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. Nissen is scared as well, though I am not sure of what. All the psychological issues you bring up are very common with transgender people. If I recall correctly, Nissen has two sex assault type charges on his rap sheet. Cowboys with six guns, Gangsters with Tommy guns, gang members with their Colors on the backs of their jackets. How much bad luck are you going to have until you realize it aint luck at all? Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. Thanks. She wasnt just dreaming of being an outlaw, she was turning into a delinquent. After moving into the home of Lisa Lambert, Teena began dating her friend, 19-year-old Lana Tisdel, and began associating with ex-convicts John L. Lotter (born May 31, 1971) and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen (born October 22, 1971). Nissen was not so ignorant. Also, the only person who seems to have gotten through to Teena Brandon emotionally was Michelle Lotter, as a stronger gay woman, who had the position in the wolf pack that Teena wished she had. Nissen has admitted to pulling the trigger at various points and has changed his story to saying lotter didwhen it has suited him to do soie to get a plea deal and avoid the death penalty. In the past, Lana has also been known as Lana M Bachman, Lana Tisdale and Lana M Tisdel. The man never showed remorse and would do it again because he judged Teena as deserving of what they did to her. Interestingly, although Nissen reportedly has an IQ score in the 80s, Dunne, who corresponded with him in prison, said that Nissen read and understood books written by Dunnes wife, the literary journalist Joan Didion. VERBALLY/ Read an update on Lana Tisdel and her mother. BY AT LEAST Guessing your wife is with you for carnal gratification definitely not intellectually based upon your intelligent statement.. Nissen, Lotter, both broke in. She blew them off. Well, among the Brandon clans tombstones where Teena is buried is the tombstone for that aunt, who died in 2000s. Lana Tisdel net worth 485 Thousand Millions of dollars 75% Net worth score Disclamer: Lana Tisdel net worth displayed here are calculated based on a combination social factors. Most women who transitioned to men are gay, middle aged, and have been in stable lesbian relationships within the confines of LGBTQ Community for many years. L.L. She corrected him and told him that she was Teena. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance. One of the symptoms of mental illness is behavioral inadequacy in social situations. Victims, and there are plenty. She COULDVE been posing as male as an experiment perhaps to help her make a final decision on surgery. Who knows? Janice, I couldnt agree with you more. After dinner, the others jumped him and beat him to a bloody pulp, and they robbed him. Lotter is from a prominent local family with many relatives and they are invested in saving him. She took more religion electives in school than she did art. I disagree: unless s/hes a whole-lifer or capital case, so may be released, having something to live for is a positive influence in inmates lives, giving the incentive to behave and receive earlier parole, and as being positive for their mental health in a psychologically damaging environment. Shortly thereafter she tried suicide and was put in a psychiatric hospital. Lanas father, L.L. She was person unique not an identity or set of characteristics to be appropriated for socio-political discourse, who was appallingly murdered. Thank you for the heads-up Ill do some more research on the pic! That aspect of her life escapes you, because you have no appreciation for just how traumatized and dysfunctional she was. PHYSICALLY The biggest problem with the Aphordite Jones book about Teena Brandon, All that S/He Wanted is a screen-play treatment of Teena Brandons tragedy. Once the lie has a toe in the door, your in for a huge amount of trouble and it will just get worse the more hogwash you entertain. Right on! I enjoyed the update, especially knowing that these two low lives are still behind bars. Everyone. No, they told him. In simplifying and celebrating the cross-dressing aspects of the story, the film makers never found out the real Teena Brandon, how awesome she was, despite her problems and her bad deeds, and what a tragedy her murder really was. You infer this from the groupies around the likes of Richard Ramirez, whose attractiveness to women persisted after his appalling crimes were known, and quite a few other sickos who attract women post-conviction. Court documents indicate that people were afraid of Lotter, that he terrorized his local community. None of it is extremely unusual. FROM THE His descriptions are great. Ive read everything you posted here and suspect you are led by the arrogance of being or pretending to be some sort of expert or intimate of Brandon or her family and posting it here to feel important or special. LARGE TRUCK, You are too ready to believe bad reporting and poor journalism. There are millions of tragic stories of cisgender women who have been victims of violent crimes, and weve offered our full measure of empathy towards them for our entire livesat the exclusion of seeing our own tragic stories offered any reciprocal respect. Not so. You people need to have some respect. Lotter told Teena that he liked her and hoped to be with her, after she was released from jail and everyone found out that she was female. Pattern recognition and timing is the key to everything. Lotter and Nissen then shot Brandon, Lambert, and DeVine dead. Thanks. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. He is not getting away from her! Id definitely donate to this excellent blog! Third case (I am a railfan, partial to freight trains going far, far away). In Jones version Teena attends her birthday party, and only then goes to pick up Lana. 100% They knew it was wrong the murder was a PUNISHMENT & it was completely premeditated. FYI the pic of the woman is not Brandon before he transitioned. . Intellectual is a bit kind: more probably prisoner/murderer fetishism (hybristophilia a paraphilia (ie, sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviours, or individuals) in which sexual arousal/facilitation/attainment of orgasm are responsive to/contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage such as rape or murder.) She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. It was clearly sarcasm. Apart from the television works, this American has also appeared in movies. Its a shame you dont have a donate button! This was apparently with all of the censorship of social media on only one side of the conversation. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. She has become more striking with maturity. Finally, one of the last statements that Teena made was there is no Brandon, I am Teena. They could have taught her to handle domestic violence while she was at the psychiatric hospital, but the professionals were sub standard. He used stolen checks and credit cards to pay for flowers and stuffed animals for the women he dated; he was a romantic. You may say what does this have to do with Brandon Teena, but isnt that name just another reversal of the truth her being born as Tina Brandon and isnt the entire world backwards by design, and by a minute fraction of the population enslaving us all? Boys Dont Cry is a fantasy has nothing in common with real events. Its an example of the distortion created by PC. Was it because they thought it the right thing to do? Something that might expose them or another person to civil or criminal liability. Its one of the women he dated source the original Village voice article. (Its down for now.). If Nissen had raped other local girls before Teena and if pulling the pants off and groping was part of Nissens rape ritual, then Laux would have known this from his interviews of the previous rape victims. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotters former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. The baby was around 8 months old, so it couldnt incriminate them. 6 OTHERS, THAT In addition, it wasnt sex abuse trauma that aggravated her condition. The new friend group spent a lot of time hanging out, with Teena reportedly taking an interest in the younger Tisdel sister. Aston was killed in the crash. Lana : No. His ex-pal Thomas Nissen is serving his sentence of life without parole plus 24 years at Lincoln Correctional Center. Lotter and Nissen had told Teena that if he told anyone what they did, they would kill him. Her obituary didnt disclose her cause of death. This was more of a contributing factor to rape than any sexual orientation issues. It isnt. Intellectual? He was a rich kid. The real question is, why was Teena locking eyes with Lotter, ad not with Lana, her girlfriend, or anybody else, why Lotter? That night, adult inmates beat him to a bloody pulp, and tortured him by burning him with cigarettes and lit matches between his toes. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). BEING Initially friendly, Lotter and Nissen soon began to harass Teena and Tisdel and scrutinize their relationship. Refer to people as they prefer, not as you insist they be. That is why you see no academic papers about how they treated and attempted to heal Teena. Lotter and Nissen, portrayed by actors Peter Sarsgaard and Brendan Sexton III, were already in prison for murder by the time the movies came out. Sister didnt have the kind of money the two were asking and she offered to feed them, but the two declined saying that they already ate at a different restaurant. None, because the multiple surgeries leave the person in no physical condition to run around in the field in combat boots. Its a disgrace on many levels. No matter who stabbed? In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. She also got him in trouble with adults and later every reason that they sucked up to her turned out to be a lie. An imagining of a forlorn and angry karaoke set. Shortly after the movies came out, Lana and her mother appeared on A Current Affair and The Maury Povich Show. New development. 1 Antagonist. But Lotter and Nissan dont have a whole lot at stake in that regard. I really didnt know any true details about it. TB: God rest their souls indeed. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. But a week after he was arrested on a check-forging. The quasi-medical needle is a dishonest compromise to render death more palatable to the public (and is not necessarily quick and painless the practical justification.) How can one be respectful of what is claimed [by one] to be imagined? Lotter and Nissen, both 22, were ex-convicts with insurmountable pasts. Any gender identity issues should come second after these more immediate concerns. Dramatic-license violation: She alleged that the movie used her life story without her permission and unfairly depicted her as a habitual drinker and drug user. Teena Brandon liked Sprite soda and the old Whatchmacallit candy bars, the old ones came with real peanuts, cookie crisp and liquidy gooey caramel. Had there been another victim, with no special characteristic, equally egregiously murdered, would that be any less worthy of concern? They are monsters!!!! Another takeaway from this is that just like Lana, Nissen knew that Teena was a girl before everyone else. In his own mind he has forgiven Teena all her transgressions, and they were always the best of friends engaging in meaningful conversations. When a inmate is sentenced he has no rights. Lana is residing in Kansas with her husband and kids. On top of that, there are serious efforts to get John Lotter off the death row, where he belongs. Nissen knew that Teena was biologically female and he desired her sexually, same with Lotter. Their motive couldve been for multiple reasons multiple reasons why she angered them. Rehabilitations not in issue for these two, just permanent removal from society. During the night when he was being hazed in, the entire club turned on him, and spent the night drinking, beating on and berating the newcomer. The killers spared the life of Lamberts baby son, Tanner. Ray was to honor her sister whom she loved, middle name Rae. Between the time she got kicked out of her prep school and the time the military finally rejected her, she could have gotten a GED (Graduation Equivalency Diploma). What Happened to Brandon Teenas Most Famous Ex? Confrontation with Laux did not help, or it may have been people and pressure put on her by the criminals. THREATENED, Both him and Nissen deserve a bullet to the back of the head, and it would be a kindness. STALKED, The media, the transsexual people, the director of this hopeless movie in which she was pathetically played Hilary Swank, all twisted everything. They could have raped Lisa or another woman but they chose Brandon, specifically to humiliate her because she was trans. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. Today, she maintains a presence on the internet, but she uses her married name, Lana Bachman, and probably isnt looking to satisfy curiosity seekers. Teena and Tisdel began seeing each other, because Tisdel found Teena attractive and believed Brandon was a cisgender man. Fry em! Also, Joan Didian is still alive, but sadly Dominick Dunne passed away in 2005. Teena Brandon liked to make people laugh and could work an audience. Just pointed out that you agree with Lotter and Nissen. Logic: you say you agree with Jude; Jude says Brandon is male; ergo you say Brandon is male. An interesting thought with someone who has an IQ of 67? When Teena Brandon was driven back from the hospital after she was raped, the way she talked showed her mental illness and how her symptoms helped her survive prior abuse. AFFORDABLE, Them low life murders will have to answer to god and he awaits. Lana Tisdel is known for The Brandon Teena Story (1998). He got into drunken trouble again and his parents did not bail him out of jail. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Teena is a female, so refer to her as she. etc. According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? Swank won her first Best Actress Oscar for her portrayal of Brandon Teena, a real-life transgender man who was the victim of a hate crime in 1993. Lana Bachman lives in Centralia, KS; previous city include Falls City NE. Dave: Thats certainly one consideration that administering death drags us down to the perps level (albeit that the administration is perhaps more civilised than theirs was) If the US must have it I favour it being done with brutal candour (not brutality): hanging, shooting, and the chair are all quick and painless when done competently and look like what they are: capital punishment. The only difference is that Taliban are true believers not afraid to die, and Lotter is a coward. BE GONE! Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. As far as diagnosing trans people, sex reassignment surgery is the cure of last resort, and only after all of the other issues have been address. And if the other victims fail to step forward and if Teena is very scared, what is it they are afraid of, is it Nissens personal capacity of violence or is it a larger gang that he may belong to? The Great Pretender- Disappointment- Case File- Something Precious- You Win Again- Baby It's You 2. Lisa Lambert's name was changed to Candace in the movie. Thanks much for the correction on Joan Didion I have edited accordingly! BB: Thanks for your most engaging response. This article gets some things wrong, but it is great for background information. Lana Tisdel testified in Court that she saw both, Teena Brandon and Tom Nissen, for the first time at the Oasis Bar, and it appears that the two were there together. Turned to savages. Jones leaves stuff out. I know more about Teena Brandon and what happened to her than you. Lana M. Tisdel (born March 28, 1975) is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the 1993 murder of Brandon Teena was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. Leslie Tisdel was vocal about the film's script changes, and upset that her boyfriend who was murdered, Phillip DeVine, was not included in the film, nor was she, and instead the film focused on Brandon Teena. They then drove to the house of Lisa Lambert, where Brandon had been hiding out. Quit wasting tax payers money on these disgusting bags of dung. Lotter said that he first met Teena when she walked up to him at the Oasis Bar and they talked and walked out to her car, got inside and shared a fifth of vodka. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. These two hideous scumbags killed because of their lack of self esteem and self worth and most importantly they TOTALLY COMPREHENDED their PREMEDITATED MURDERS! Notice how no account of Teena Brandons life examines Teenas family to any extent. Shrink that gave her the gender transition checklist did her no favors. Well, after all these years since Hilary won the Oscar, I have finally watched this movie. 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