About 67lbs. I would also consider other manufacturers with wood gunwales if equal to the Explorer - Penobscot? Based on your planned use however, Id guess its more boat than you need for two people doing day trips. Mad River Canoe Replacement seats. I updated with the photos from the ads. CUSTOM MAD RIVER ADVENTURE 14ft CANOE Electric Outboard, Battery, Oars, Cover. This route seems most consistent with original. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. Well, it is done enough for now. It appears there is even a kneeling thwart just aft of the yoke for when you want to solo it. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. One last twistThe '97 catalog has nice exploded assembly illustrations of the lay-ups and in simply looking at the boat I would think it most resembles the KH build for three reasons. In general, cane seats are not model specific they come long (wide) and you cut to fit. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. Recently picked this beauty up for a song. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. T-Formex is the most ruggedmaterial. by openboat Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm, Post Get Started. JavaScript is disabled. In reading through MR FAQs it mentions Gunwale Guard was used on Gunwales, Handles, Decks, & Seat Spacers. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. People recognize this and increase the price of used boats when demand is high. Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? 12.5 inch deep center. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm, Post VArious hardware goes with canoe. The '94 catalog speaks of them being available for the kevlar and fiberglass boats so I am thinking they would be form-fit to some degree?? Thanks for the suggestion on the seat trusses and also the link to Ed's Canoe. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. It may be a little lighter than the Camper but Id expect it to be in the low 50s. Thank you for the comments. I'll look for into some of the most recent dimension questions later this week and get back to every one. Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. I would be tempted to sand and oil the peg hangers and reuse them. As of yesterday I had convinced myself this was a kevlar boat judging by how the weight felt as I shouldered it a number of times and put it on the truck. With regular webbed seats the (symmetric) Camper can be paddled backwards from the bow seat for solo use. This leads me to wonder about other errors which I can imagine with all the different versions, acronyms, and changing terminology. Experience Mad River Canoe. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356 Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. 2/27 . 2) The floor just seems to have a "bubble" just like the foam core Kevlar builds show. They are now up on the MRC website under archived catalogs. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. Also asked him for any literature on KE or Airex but I received nothing on these. The camo seems to be too high quality and intricate for an individual to have done, and it appears to be under the gel coat inside and outside of the hull. Ive never paddled a Sunrunner but they have a solid reputation. Serial # info requestI recently found a Mad River Independence, from what I can make out the serial # is MAD1D2771293. Thanks for buying that boat. Just FYI in case you didnt know Royalex boats are no longer made and the replacement (T-Formex) is heavier and a new T-Formex tandem may cost $2000 so you really got a gem thats worth more than you paid. Swift Canoe and Kayak builds the composite Explorer canoes in South River, Ontario, and the T-Formex Explorer is made at the Esquif factory in Framption, Quebec. 3/4 . They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. Especially being a somewhat heavy boat when propping the nose on the ground to shoulder. Hey Micah, I suggest that you put some oil on the cane seats immediately. Is that the measurement you meant? See photo. It sounds silly, but a light boat gets used more And just looking at the specs of the sunrunner it sounds like a well handling boat. thx. Was stored in a gara Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield), Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (Lexington), 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe - $400 (WHIDBEY ISLAND). Sunrunner. Enjoy! Inspiring paddlesports participation through quality coverage of the people, places, adventures, boats and gear, trends and events that make paddling something you'll do for the rest of your life. Prices are subject to change without notice. The following Mad River canoes have received the highest star ratings by reviewers in our Paddling Buyers Guide. No ribs however. No doubt it is well made but being mid 40's forces me to consider weight. . Is Watco considered an oil? My number is MAD 14635F000. Note, this will travel on the top of my Toyota FJ Cruiser. He was selling to move to a kayak as his wife has MS and can no longer manage in the canoe. Hello fellow paddlers. That is an appendage. I vote mad river. I suspect the "KA" denotes a Kevlar/Airex Explorer model which MRC produced 1983-1995. Bell Morningstar, 15'6'', 40 pound canoe. The more I read about glass canoes the more I understand their benefits as in rigidity, sharper entry points (efficiency), and lighter than Royalex which I wouldn't have guessed. Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. When I redid the cane on a boat recently I used a kit from Ed's which is a bit pricey but worked great, the wedges were helpful. Finding used canoes requires frequent searching. Last week I did contact Confluence/MR tech support for PDFs of MR catalogs from '95 - 2000 as I already had the '94. The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. There are some design aspects that you might overlook in a photo that can drastically affect your paddling experience. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Looks like a beautiful canoe. Micah. EDIT: The bathroom scale weight still presents a mystery. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. boats. Here's the link to the Ed's cane repair kit. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. All of the boats will work for you. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The announcement of the partnership was made at industry tradeshow Paddlesports Retailer last August in Oklahoma City. Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. Kevlar Fusion and carbon are composite renditions of the Explorer. You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. Excellent condition. Boat includes a removable motor mount. If I could only pick from these five and based on how you intend to use it, Id lean toward the OT Camper. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. Timeless and Rugged. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbe, https://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic ial+number, http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.broam/CanoeOutfitting. Theres a significant jump in quality between $600 canoes and ones from dedicated canoe builders. by openboat Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:05 pm, Post Rob, Mad River Serial NumberThanks for the responses. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post The Pathfinder is $650. columbia, MO. If you cant find a kevlar canoe you like, then buy a fiberglass one that is not too big. Could be good that you didn't find the green and white label Watco since that takes about a month or two to dryI've found the Teak Oil is a nice compromise and dries thoroughly in a day or two. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. I bet he'd take $500. Mad River Malecite, Bought 1994, used little, includes 2 wood paddles, mats, block for car top carrying. The Journey and Explorer qualify as versatile touring canoes. color: tan They are comparable to other popular canoe companies, like Nova Craft or Esquif. Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). SmartMarineGuide New York, NY - All rights TB, Hey RobWhat can you tell me about my boat. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. I have read up on each individually and for general use they all seem good, but looking for opinions as the material and weight likely differ and it is hard to know exactly the weight due to the variations of models over the years and lengths 15 to 18 feet. The Kevlar/Airex Explorer also had an outer layer of S 'glass under the gel coat which was nice. - Last Updated: May-03-08 8:58 AM EST -. Also the hanger bolts are all bent just so as to make everything hang perfect & tight. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. BTW, I use the term geek quite fondly! Its a fine small tandem and you would enjoy it solo. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. What I can't figure out is what our model is. That matters in your situation, more than the seats, gunwales, or design of the canoe. Contemplated buying a different scale but didn't want to run into town, nor spend the money. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. $600 for the camper and $800 for the Discovery both say original owners. account. So their thinking was the cary handles and seat spacers flex but the seat frames and yoke don't? I was surprised at the range of canoes available so was looking for some advice. Mad River's Adventure is their recreational canoe, and it's available in two sizes, 14 and 16 feet. Thanks. Should not be in the 90's this time of the year in MN however it didn't help that I had my kiln running in the workshop yesterday which went past 2,000F. You will like it. No wood rot. Throughout Mad Rivers history, theyve experimented with canoe designs and materials. by sbroam Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:01 pm, Post That looks like a great option. Mad River has been building canoes for almost 50 years. How would you spend your money for general use? I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. Great all around boat. Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your local Mad River Canoe dealer who can order the part for you. If you prefer kneeling when you paddle, make sure that your feet fit comfortably underneath the bench seats. Thanks, Generally my son would carry that with the food pack and then we did a return trip for the main gear pack. by Paddle Power Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:19 pm, Post The 16-foot Explorer is the flagship model, and Mad Rivers bestselling canoe. The T-Formex Explorer is a bit lighter at 77 pounds. Note the raised section does not follow the paint line however so not pointed ends like a football. I may see one in person which is Mad River Explorer and they say dark green. Glad I'm not the only one needing to dig into old documents to find answers. ButI can envision it with the seat components, thwart, & yoke matching the gunwales. Thats not hard and would cost a little over $100 for seats, seat drops and hardware. Avoid Royalex boats, cross-link poly, or other heavy types of boat construction. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. I agree with the comment that it would be worth adding regular webbed seats. There are three models most recently produced by Mad River: The Adventure, Journey andExplorer. Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. Home run. Beautiful work Micah! From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. I am looking at some craiglist canoes this weekend. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Or did you mean the width of the boat from gunnel to gunnel where the seats are currently located? 3/4 . A company representative reports that they hope to start making canoes again in 2023. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. My wife loves the Camper because its initial stability is so good. It would not be a great solo boat because its so big for one person. Theyve been in business for more than 100 years, and today they tailor their canoes to recreational paddlers. Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. 17 isnt too long or short, can carry a decent load, has a little rocker for streams, gel coated Kevlar is an ideal layup - light but semi durable (much more so than skincoat Kevlar at least). Youd also need to add a kneeling thwart or center seat so the weight would probably end up around same as the Camper. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. WIth that all said I am going to work towards lightening our overall load & try to get a handle on paddling efficiency gains with this boat vs the We-no-nah Boundary Waters Ultralight we took last as the trip is fresh in my mind. If you look at the Camper first thing to do is flip it over and see how much wear it has and whether the Royalex skin is intact. heres a thead from the archives: Mad River Canoe repair, new ash gunwales, seats, yoke and handles. 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