Yet the little pills zipped downrange from .17-caliber rifles shoot with lazer-like flatness and produce surprisingly impressive results on small game and predators. Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. There are a variety of .17-caliber bullets for handloaders to choose from. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. The Hodgdons 2012 Annual Manual and the Hodgdon website list about the same maximum loads for the .17 Ackley Hornet and .17 Hornet with some powders. Hornady currently loads its .17 Hornet with 20-grain V-MAX and 15.5-grain NTX bullets. Even the report of most .17-caliber guns is mild, particularly that of rimfire versions. While shooting the Cooper Model 21, I experimented a great deal with bullet jump (or lack of it), and the Berger 30-grain bullet shot best when seated 0.005 inch into the rifling. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. Lot-to-lot powder variations do exist and in a cartridge this small, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity. But like most rifles in 22 Hornet, the barrels of those in 218 Bee have a rifling twist of 1:16 inches, which is not quick enough to stabilize many of the bullets listed for this cartridge in various reloading manuals. Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.5 grains with a 20-grain bullet fills a case formed from Winchester 22 Hornet brass to its brim. The round was first loaded with an 87-grain bullet at the then-astounding velocity of 3,000 fps; the "3000" in its name was, of course, a marketing maneuver on the bullet speed. After the cases were trimmed, loaded and fired, they had not grown in length any appreciable amount. Load data for caliber ".17 Rem." The .17 Remington is a short-length cartridge developed by the Remington Arms Company in 1971. The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. My most accurate 222 rem. The Fireball, fed lighter bullets, is capable of velocities well in excess of 4,000 fps. When it comes to choosing a primer, it and the 17 Ackley Hornet can be finicky from rifle to rifle. Its case is 1.796 inches long and while many assert that its nothing more than a .223 necked to .17, a quick examination of the cases clearly demonstrates that this is not so. The Hornets velocities are about 500 fps slower than the Fireballs. The .17 Remington is one of the children that the .222 Remington spawned. Ackley created his first .17 caliber wildcat by necking down the .30 Carbine case. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. The V-MAX bullets had an average velocity of 3,567 fps for 10 shots recorded 10 feet in front of the muzzle of the 21.90-inch barrel of a CZ 527 American. sierra Gameking , AOL. The Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint test rifles included a heavy (.82 inch at muzzle) 26-inch barrel and held a Swarovski Optik 3.5-28x50 P scope set atop Precision Hardcore Gears Tru-Level Picatinny rail. Case life is long, and barrel life is normally around 7,000 or 8,000 rounds (at least for minute-of-varmint accuracy) due largely to the modest pressures and rather small powder charges. The first commercial .17-caliber round, the .17 Remington, was hobbled by the inferior .17-caliber bullets available upon its release, often resulting in superficial wounds on animals such as coyotes. The new powder also flows through good powder measures with minimum charge-to-charge variation in weight. This little gem was introduced originally by Remington in 1971, though similar wildcats had undoubtedly existed for many years prior. Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. H-4198 was also a good powder. In addition to stabilizing in a 1:16 twist, their thin jackets make them more effective on varmints than bullets of the same weight and even lighter that are constructed for cartridges of higher velocities. I could say the same with the Berger 25 grain Flat Base Varmint. During May 2016, he thinned the Idaho rockchuck and ground squirrel populations with a custom pistol in 17 Hornet built around a single-shot Sako A1 action. 17 MACH IV. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. The 20-grain bullet of Hornady factory ammunition had to free-travel 0.102 inch prior to rifling engagement. The supplied scope rings that clamp on the square bridge of the receiver are a nice touch. Lately, I have been experimenting with a 30-grain HPBT from a custom maker in Virginia, Don Unmussig. Respective starting charge weights for those two bullets are 15.8 and 15.3 grains. The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. The .17 RFB is nothing more than the .221 Fireball necked to .17 caliber, with case walls straightened and a 30-degree shoulder added. More reliable bullets allowed .17-caliber rounds like the RFB to be run at 4,000-plus feet per second (fps) without worry of poor terminal performance. It took Remington until 2008 to adopt the cartridge. The first one was the .17 Hornet, closely followed by the .17 Bee and later by the .17/222.. and the one you speak of is one of them. But the difference was not great. Like I said, different rifles, different preferences in primers. With the CZ sighted in 1.40 inches high at 100 yards, the bullets still hit an inch above aim at 200 yards. Unfortunately, it did not turn in a noteworthy group with this bullet. Using 18.5-, 19- and 19.5-grain charges of Ramshot X-Terminator produced .28-, .31- and .68-inch groups at 3,583, 3,687 and 3,809 fps, respectively, with a 1.81-inches OAL. Hornadys 15.5-grain NTX (Non-Traditional eXpanding) bullet is a polymer-tipped, lead-free (California legal) option allowing screaming velocity combined with dramatic terminal performance on small varmints. | Although overall cartridge length is restricted to about 1.950 inches, there is still more than enough room to seat bullets close to the rifling should doing so be necessary or desired. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Overall, Hodgdons CFE BLK, Alliants Reloder 10x, Vihtavuoris N133 and Ramshots X-Terminator emerged as clear winners, providing a balanced combination of accuracy and velocity in this fine varminting cartridge. Perhaps you know someone who drives a Maserati, or a 1970s International pickup. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. Hodgdon LilGun is the powder for the .17. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. Nitroglycerine content makes them double-base propellants. During the first years of World War II, Mr. ONeil came up with the idea of a .17 caliber cartridge, believed to have been based on the .22 Hornet. I was reminded of him while loading IMR 4198 in the Ackley cartridge in order to compare its performance with CFE BLK. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). The SCAR 15P is chambered for 5.56 NATO and, with its 7.5-inch barrel, is the most compact SCAR to date. In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. Some seating-depth jockeying would likely reap rewards, and the stock could use some work, as a piece of paper will not slip between barrel and stock. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. There are a wide variety of custom makers that currently sell various configurations of hollowpoints and even softpoints in .17 calibera quick search on the net will show the way. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Bergers 25 grain Flat Base Varmint was chosen to represent the 25 grain weight class after noting exceptional accuracy in other calibers with this bullet. Have you tried H322? Its cup is softer than that of the Remington 7 primer, but neither of us experienced pierced primers when using a charge 0.3 grain shy of maximum. As a comparison, the extreme velocity spread was 108 fps for 10 shots of Hornadys Superformance Varmint 20-grain load. When preparing loads for the Marlin rifle, I started with two flatnose bullets: the Hornady 45-grain hollowpoint and the Speer 46-grain softnose. Pushing 20-grain bullets to even modest velocities of 3,800 fps results in high impacts on small varmints such as ground squirrels and prairie dogs. On the other end of the stick, almost all firearm manufacturers offer rimfire rifles chambered in .17 HMR, so shooters can pick and choose. Today's favorites are the .17 HMR and the .17 Remington. The .17 Rem's efficient ballistics allow . Depending on the size of the cartridge case housing the tiny bullets, performance ranges from mostly suitable for rodents inside 200 yards to deadly on bigger predators out to 400 yards. H414/W760 behind a 30gr. He was a college professor, a gifted machinist, a writer, a barrel maker, a bullet maker, a builder of rifles and an avid experimenter. The round closely resembles the .17 Mach IV, created by wildcatter Vern OBrien in the 1960s. Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. The Hornady .17 case, however, is a bit shorter in length and to the base of the shoulder than the Ackley case. The Fireball dropped in 1964 with the official introduction of the same companys XP-100 single-shot bolt pistol and provided 90 percent of the .223 Remingtons performance while burning 35 percent less powder. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. The .17 RFB provides 300 to 400 feet per second (fps) velocity gains over the popular .17 Hornet. The new big bore pistols feature industry-first capacity, with a standard 15-round capacity and 22+1 rounds of 10mm or 18+1 rounds of .45 ACP from the extended magazines. The Berger 25-grain bullet preferred 0.010 inch. Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. The S.A.A.M.I. Give it a shot and see what youve been missing. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Formed by necking up the .223 Rem. This bullet would make the best choice for coyote-sized game, providing a touch more punch and less likelihood of breaking up before reaching vitals. Hornady HP. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 7 Top .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Ruger No. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. The load was too much for F-Class. Having the tools, it was decided to make a few barrels. : 4,638 4,917 Press. After firing the factory loads, case lengths had stretched to 1.343 inches. That powder seems to always work for me. The rifle weighs right at 7 pounds with a Turkish walnut stock and a Burris 10x scope. The Ruger test rifle used in this report preferred the Remington 6 primer. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. Here's some great load data to help you achieve the best 5-shot groups. In Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders, Volume II (1966), Ackley writes about himself: The author may or may not have been the originator of the .17 caliber in this country. It typically kills even big-bodied coyotes cleanly, yet does minimal damage to the skin. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. In testing the ability of the powder to Erase Copper Fouling, Reiber fired a 467-round string during the varmint shoot with no cleaning, except for occasional dry-brushing to sweep out powder fouling. Now lets take a close look at the performance of CFE BLK in several varmint cartridges. The Nosler 20-grain bullet was happiest at 0.015 inch. Subscriber Services. Reloder 7 did its best with a maximum load of 16.5 grains; .53 inch at 4,039. Especially Remington brass. For years, Remington was the only one that loaded the .17 Rem., but now factory ammunition can be had from Nosler and Hornady, as well. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. | Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooters Choice are all smart investments. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. I have also done a lot of work with the Federal 205 and 205 Match, and these primers also work wellbut will also start to flatten and can pierce more easily than the first three mentioned. About the same time, Hornady introduced its version of the 25-grain HPand this was (and is) an excellent bullet, though sadly it appears to be out of production at the moment. That is a significant difference in such a small cartridge case that only holds about 12 grains of powder. Having a burn speed close to H4198 and IMR 4198 makes CFE BLK suitable for use in a variety of applications, including the .17- and .22-caliber varmint cartridges covered in this report. Two calibers stand out among those of .17-diameter ilk, although others of newer design may outstrip them in the future. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. Full-length sizing the fired cases, though, lengthened them .006 inch. At those velocities, drift isnt as significant as some would lead you to believe, either. They shoot whisper-tiny projectiles the same diameter as the BBs we all loved to pop away with as kids. Joined: Dec 2015. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. I also wondered if this rifle just didnt like heavier slugs, so I decided to try some 25 grain Hornady V-MAX I had acquired after assembling initial loads in a component-shortage swap with a friend. The Sierra 40-grain hollowpoint also preferred 0.005 inch of rifling engagement. Of rimfire design, it's ideal for prairie dogs, potgut gophers and most of the smaller furbearers out to a couple of hundred yards. Hodgdon lists as little as 0.3 grain between minimum and maximum powder charges for the .17 Hornady. The 17 Hornet was given a S.A.A.M.I. Im betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. Primers open another interesting can of worms. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. Nosler makes both a hollowpoint and a Tipped projectile in the Varmageddon line, while Hornady makes a 20-grain V-MAX, as well as a 25-grain V-MAX if you like a little heavier option. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. That length allows Hornadys .17 Hornet to fit in existing magazines and bolt actions originally intended for the .22 Hornet, like the CZ 527, Ruger 77/22 Hornet and Savage Model 25. The Sierra 40-grain BlitzKing delivered the smallest groups when seated out to lightly kiss the rifling, while the 50-grain BlitzKing preferred 0.005 inch of jump. Regardless of how bullets were seated, chamber pressures appeared to be on the mild side in the Cooper and Remington guns. The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Determined to include a Berger 30-grain load in this report, I asked my friends at Hodgdon to shoot it in their 24-inch pressure barrel. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. Colt Model 1861 Special Musket: What's Its Value? It pushes 25-grain bullets up to 3,200 fps. The CZ 527 and Hornady factory loads combined for this 200-yard group. Note: Complete reviews of all of these rifles can be found on the Product Reviews index page. A Cooper rifle I shot performed best with the Federal 205M. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. The first one was chambered for the so-called .17 Pee Wee, which was simply the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .17, and the first rifle was built . When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. : 41,500 50,400 CUP Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. <oneshot>. . WARNING: The loads shown here are safe only in the guns for which they were developed. Beyond that distance, the Swift was the clear winner at bucking wind and dropping whistle pigs in mid-munch. 17 September 2002, 13:14. And for those who have grown weary of forming 17 Ackley Hornet cases from 22 Hornet brass, I have included a CFE BLK load in Hornadys 17 Hornet case. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. Test: CCI A17 averaged 2642 fps for five rounds, which is only 8 fps slower than the factory-touted numberpretty remarkable. Hornadys 20-grain Z-MAX is the same as the V-MAX in every way, except the polymer tip is Zombie green instead of Hornady red. Compression is light when the Berger 30-grain bullet is seated to an overall cartridge length of 1.830 inches. bullet will surprise you also. This bullet, seated to a 1.81-inch OAL, also started turning in better groups. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. box; midwayusa.com. The 20-grain Varmageddon by Nosler is a classic cup-and-core hollowpoint that provides a great option for high-volume, budget-conscious varmint shooters. When charging cases, use care. So with some hold-over aiming finesse, the .17 would make a decent ground squirrel and prairie dog cartridge out to 300 yards. My LabRadar, which allows meeting deadlines during the endless overcast days of a northern Idaho winter, will not record speeds exceeding 4,000 fps. The .17-caliber, 20-grain V-MAX (left) is not that much smaller than the .20-caliber, 32-grain V-MAX (center) and Hornadys .22-caliber, 40-grain V-MAX (right). In the .17s I have worked with, the CCI BR-4 has given me the most consistent accuracybut your results may vary. I'm watching this thread because I just got my 17 rem upper. Pressures generated in Hodgdons pressure barrel for an 18.0-grain charge behind those two bullet weights was only 33,500 and 35,700 CUP respectively. Fast follow-up shots are easy, virtue of low recoil, and savvy shooters can spot their own impacts through their scope. Drifts at 300 yards in a 10-mph cross breeze are 14 inches for the .17 Hornet versus 11 inches for the .223 Rem. A form die set is required if .221 Fireball cases are used, but those lucky enough to find Remington .17 Fireball brass can simply run them through a .17 Mach IV full-length sizing die, add primer, powder and bullet, and head for the varmint fields. The .17 Mach 2 (.17 M2) cartridge is based on a CCI Stinger .22 LR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. The author obtained the tools, which took some time, and by the time the tools were ready Mr. ONeil had other things to occupy his mind, so that the project remained static until 1945. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. The fouling was a bit heavier in the Marlin 1894, but it was easily removed. For shooting varmints like prairie dogs or ground squirrels, the 20-grain bullets are hard to beat. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. And while the burn rate of CFE BLK is too quick for the 17 Remington, Hodgdon recommends it for the smaller cartridge. Unfortunately, our choices have become very sparse, but the V-MAX and the Berger HP both work better than the lighter bullets. I was curious to see how Hornadys factory load would perform in my SSK Industries rifle. For instance, if you want to shoot the new .17 WSM, you're pretty much limited to Savage's B-Mag and perhaps one or two single-shot, novelty type rifles such as Taylor Firearms' little baby Sharps. Ackley describes the .17 Hornet as sort of an improved .22 Hornet necked down to .17 caliber. Muzzle flash in a 10.75-inch barrel is minimal, while touching off a charge of LilGun is remindful of how the 221 Fireball got its name. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. The original powder charge was then poured back in, and the factory bullet was seated to the original overall cartridge length of 1.712 inches. In addition to delivering much lower velocity spreads, accuracy was better with IMR 4198 and H335. But by using a 7-inch drop tube, I managed to coax in 18.5 grains behind the Berger 30-grain and Hornady 35-grain bullets. I have some 25 grain Calhoon .17 bullets that I have been saving for a while. Wt. Reibers load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. Don't recall the load but it didn't shoot very well. The most accurate loads have been with the Hornady 20gn and 25gn V-Max bullet which turned in 3-shot groups averaging .50-MoA. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooter's Choice are all smart investments. Hornady and Nosler both make 20-grain bullets. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. (Photo courtesy of Lane Pearce) September 20, 2022 By Lane Pearce. My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). Remington factory ammo measures 1.810 inches in length and due to a fairly long chamber throat in the test rifle, the bullet is required to free-travel 0.183 inch prior to engaging the rifling. The Hornady and Ackley versions of the 17 Hornet are examples. In some cases, the cartridge you want to shoot will dictate the type of rifle available. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, Browning SA-22 Challenge Semiauto Rimfire: Its History and a Review, 6 Best .300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. Longer stick propellants can bridge when flowing through purpose-designed .17 caliber powder dispensing equipment, and for this reason I always weigh my charges carefully and inspect the charged cases prior to the bullet seating operation. Winchester created this load, and named it for what it wasswift. Reloder 10x performed exceptionally, assembling .40- and .55-inch groups at 3,950 and 4,051 fps providing an excellent combination of accuracy and velocity. In those days, a velocity of 2,000 fps was considered "fast," so this was really big news. A note on cleaningsince this will be mentioned in any reloading manual or article about the caliber. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. The heavier bullets had much lower extreme spreads, with 43 to 45 fps for the 25-grain bullets and 30 to 66 fps for the 30-grain bullets. The .17 Hornets tiny bullets and a small case capacity mean velocities vary considerably with a slight change in powder weight. Hornady dies were used to handload cartridges for the .17 Hornet. CZ calls the 527 a micro-Mauser due to its nonrotating claw extractor that grabs the rim of a case as its pushed forward out of the magazine and blade ejector. As much as I like LilGun in the 221 Fireball, I have to admit CFE BLK has pushed it to second place on my preference chart. I recall wondering if close examination would have revealed several .375-inch holes the bears hide. If the rifles are compared based on the average group size achieved with their favored brand of ammo the results are as follows. H-322 didnt impress, .82 inch at 4,344 fps its best showing (maximum/compressed load of 19.5 grains), while TAC managed only .66 inch at 3,935 (19.5 grains) with this bullet. An overall cartridge length of 1.815 inches with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exceeds what the Ruger magazine is capable of handling, so those rounds had to be manually loaded directly into the chamber. Give a Gift My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). All Rights Reserved. The magazine of the Ruger rifle will handle longer. The impossibility of getting suitable actions for the .17 Pee Wee cartridge, made it necessary to design several other cartridges which would be suitable for available actions. 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